tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19733180.post5765769484758381524..comments2024-03-24T07:56:33.811-05:00Comments on Allan R. Bevere: Sex and Schism #1: One Issue ObsessionAllan R. Beverehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07903011101108437513noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19733180.post-50499827503798804102014-05-31T06:16:20.218-05:002014-05-31T06:16:20.218-05:00As just a guy who fills a seat in church and not a...As just a guy who fills a seat in church and not a pastor...I will elaborate on my earlier thought if you will allow. I sincerely do believe that there remains a remnant of good churches out there today. However…. most others are repositories of apostate assemblies infested with dark heresy. These religious institutions are decomposing corpses that make up the bulk of what the world sees today as church. Look….none of us is blind…..the world is turning away from the church in great numbers, unimpressed and wanting nothing to do with the foolishness on display. The world sees hypocrisy, greed, and unending confusion from church leaders who cling to incongruous doctrinal views that do more to separate than join the body.<br /><br />The lost world makes it a point to avoid the proverbial “church experience” because demonic wolves seek to capture and control all who enter the door, using abusive practices derived from twisted doctrine. Although the world’s view of the “invisible church” is unknown and therefore mysterious, their view of the “visible church is known and reason enough to stay away from this person named Jesus Christ. Satan has succeeded in destroying the witness of true Christians because the world lumps all believers into one pile without the benefit of discerning true believers from false. The Bible talks about this scenario in Matthew 13:24-30 whereby God has, is, and will allow the false to abide with the true until such time He separates the wheat and tares from one another.<br /><br />It takes an assertive effort, under the prompting and guidance of the Holy Spirit, for believers to grow until he or she can discern truth from error. The need to search the scriptures daily to see if these things be true, with help from an open Bible and ever present Holy Spirit, is imperative in the final hours of this age (Act 17:11).Duane Warrenhttp://disciplesway.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19733180.post-6830960941695651432014-05-31T05:37:33.684-05:002014-05-31T05:37:33.684-05:00"And finally, while I believe this subject is..."And finally, while I believe this subject is important, it seems to me that our obsession over this issue is an indicator of something deeper…"<br /><br />Precisely. For one side "winning" would mean taking a victory lap in celebration of the misguided belief they have redefined what truth is.<br /><br />For one side "winning" would mean taking a victory lap in celebration of the misguided belief they have preserved their denomination.<br /><br />Both sides will lose no matter the outcome. <br /><br />Duane Warrenhttp://disciplesway.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19733180.post-60879489899843587672014-05-29T17:08:23.310-05:002014-05-29T17:08:23.310-05:00Ken,
The issue of trust is big. If we were to man...Ken,<br /><br />The issue of trust is big. If we were to manage to find a solution to this issue that makes everyone happy (doubtful), there will need to be some serious attempts to build up trust once again, particularly from those who have willfully violated the Discipline.<br /><br />A covenant cannot survive without trust.Allan R. Beverehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07903011101108437513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19733180.post-46351650234668102822014-05-29T14:05:54.208-05:002014-05-29T14:05:54.208-05:00Great points all Allan. I have had much the same ...Great points all Allan. I have had much the same thoughts as you but after some of my recent readings and experiences regarding issue of trust, I felt compelled to write on the issue of broken trust. Looking at responses, I see how quickly the focus of my post gets hijacked. There are more important things for us to be focused on for sure but we'll find it hard to discover that ground if we keep trying to respond to arguments that aren't even being brought up. -Ken HaglerKen Hagler, Your Alaskan Realtorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12356950549649622483noreply@blogger.com